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Old Aug 29, 2006, 09:40 PM // 21:40   #41
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I'd buy Nightfall if my friends who stopped playing Guild Wars came back.

My enjoyment of online games is inversely proportional to the number of people I want to punch in the throat.

Unfortunately, most random players I run into in Guild Wars fall under that category.
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Old Aug 29, 2006, 10:12 PM // 22:12   #42
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I would REALLY like to know how many of the sales of Factions turned out to be merged accounts i.e. fans of the original buying the second one. If it's a pretty high percent that rides roughshot over the whole "it's a standalone" game argument - people are buying them as expansions.

That is, of course, assuming there's a high percent of merged accounts as opposed to "standalone" accounts. Without info from Anet, no way of knowing really, but I'm going to take a guess from the forums at least most here are mergers and approaching it like expansions. They end up buying because most of their Guild gets it, for PvP reasons etc if they want to stay "up to date"

p.s. I mean active accounts, not ones who maybe stopped playing.
There are lots of inactive accounts out there the majority of beta testers have stopped playing back in 05.I am still thinking of Nightfall although I was going to opt out I may get it considering there may be more to do as it is not like Factions.I do enjoy GW but it takes a lot out of you especially when trying to make buck in the game.
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Old Aug 29, 2006, 10:21 PM // 22:21   #43
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Ummmm, what would make me buy Nightfall ? Not being made by the team that made Factions would be a plus point..
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Old Aug 29, 2006, 11:18 PM // 23:18   #44
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just wondering.. how may of you would be getting the standard edition instead of the CE?
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Old Aug 29, 2006, 11:23 PM // 23:23   #45
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just wondering.. how may of you would be getting the standard edition instead of the CE?
Depends if stores give us the choice of the 2. Aussies usually get the short end of the straw and have like 2 CE's per store.
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Old Aug 29, 2006, 11:32 PM // 23:32   #46
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i will be buying the CE, but i'm also in the US. As for buying Nightfall, i will get it becuase the 2 new classes and not to mention i like the game. As for factions, yes the story isn't great, but everything else is, the way they put it togeather and everything else. Also a few of my friends where beta testers and their still around, they don't play as much but that becuase their in college and work. So ya see ya all around
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Old Aug 29, 2006, 11:37 PM // 23:37   #47
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I'll buy Nightfall if they beta-test with henchmen. They made a mess of the Factions Henchmen at the beginning and resulted in extreme rage on my behalf

That's my only request.
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Old Aug 30, 2006, 02:45 AM // 02:45   #48
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One thing i wanted to see are hidden areas or different bosses (diffcult one like Glint) who guards special areas or items. Also can we FINALLY get a better quests reward instead of xp, gold, and sometime crappy items?
Um. Try the Elite Missions much?

Also. Better quest rewards? In terms of what? There's only so many material items we can have in GW, and that's gold and items. XP isn't exactly material, though. Maybe increased rewards and better-stat weapons, but that would take away the purpose of weapons crafters, collectors and green items...hell, drops in general.

Nightfall barely looks promising to me. The fact that they were introducing TWO MORE CLASSES kind of turned me off. Then, the PvP event rolled around, and showed just how broken the Dervish and Paragon were. That really shut down any enthusiasm I had about Nightfall.

So, I have two requests:
A) FIX THE CLASSES PLZ
B) DON'T RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO UP EVERYTHING FROM THE START PLZ (Factions henchmen, anyone?)
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Old Aug 30, 2006, 03:11 AM // 03:11   #49
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I wasn't intending on buying Nightfall but my cousin who is looking for ppl to play GW with him might force me to buy. Oh well... better start saving money then...
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Old Aug 30, 2006, 08:00 AM // 08:00   #50
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what would make me buy nightfall is if the original poster didnt buy it.

more "i think all i know is right." or some shit like that... k thnx...
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Old Aug 30, 2006, 09:03 AM // 09:03   #51
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I'm sorry you bought GW to start with, this is clearly not a game for you.

If you want awesome RPG adventure, lots of visual yet useless stuff. This is the WRONG game for you.

GW focuses around PvP and generel balance, nothing will change that.

You're even ignouring that, adding more skills slots is making the game less skilled, why?
Because you no longer need to think a lot about your build, as it currently is, your build needs to suite the enviroment, keep it that way. It's like evolution.
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Old Aug 30, 2006, 09:19 AM // 09:19   #52
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the only part that i agree with is that 8 slots is way too little...but i doubt that will ever change
wow with this being such a board with the people that we have on it that know abotu guildwars, i cannot believe that this hasnt been posted already but here goes....

The origional concept was that in GW beta testing, your skills were on rings that you wore on your fingers. you have 8 fingers, so therefore you have 8 skills available. that was the whole purpose behind the 8 skill slots.

i feel old now because i knew this...
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Old Aug 30, 2006, 09:28 AM // 09:28   #53
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Buy Nightfall. Play it. Be happy.



MistressYichi, I think Great Al means 8 character slots, not skill slots Q.Q
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Old Aug 30, 2006, 09:38 AM // 09:38   #54
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i thought it was brought up as a reply to the origional poster sayign that anet would never give us more skill slots (see oringional post as i forgot exactically where its at.) so i thought i would shed some light on why its like that. sorry ill go crawl back into my hole now and go gvg more.
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Old Aug 30, 2006, 11:16 AM // 11:16   #55
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It might be interesting to have access to all your elite skills at once, but it wouldn't be very fun, I mean come on, Aura of the Lich paired up with Life Transfer? Get a monk to put Spell Breaker on you and your almost invincible... especiallly with your secondary being a warrior and putting up gladiators defence...*

Ok, but seriously - I love the way Guild Wars is setup, and the limit of skills you can bring into an explorable area/mission is what makes the game for me. Sure you get the really bad players that bring frenzy who still havn't purchased good armor, but then you go back and play with the good people in your guild and you have fun using 7-8 skills (not just 2-3 like WoW) and the gameplay is usually so fast moving and entertaining, not pause, think out move, unpause. Sometimes I like to slow it down and play that type of game, but it's not really as satisfying as GW to me.

I for one, can't wait for Nightfall to arrive! (I will however, be sticking with my 5 characters and not making one from the new classes though, I dont even have an assassin or rit, the new classes just seem like a novelty really...)

* yeah, there's probably better elites that can go together for an invincible char, but I like that combo
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Old Aug 31, 2006, 04:26 PM // 16:26   #56
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I will buy it but after I complete prophieces and start on factions. I will try to wait until it comes down in price a little bit though.
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Old Aug 31, 2006, 04:58 PM // 16:58   #57
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8 skill slots is perfect, plus you cant change skills or have 3 bars up wherever you are. If i wanted that non-strategy I would be playing WoW a lot more than I am.
That is an extremely interesting statement because I think ArenaNet has started to disagree with you. Hear me out -- if you can bring three "heroes" that you can customize everything about, what in effect you will be doing constantly is bringing 32 skills. The only restriction is that only eight of them will be entirely in your control at any time. I think picking which 24 other skills to bring will open up a huge new strategic element to the game and might end up being the shot in the arm that PvP needs. So I think it is not non-strategy.

On the WoW comparison, I think you are being a bit unfair. The WoW engine is extremely versatile and can potentially allow for a large and complex strategic landscape. Unfortunately, the people who designed the engine don't appear to be the same people who are running the game, as it is trending far too sharply towards homogeneity.
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Old Aug 31, 2006, 05:01 PM // 17:01   #58
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new pets to tame. i hope Nightfall got a Camel, Giraffe or an Elephant
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Old Aug 31, 2006, 06:12 PM // 18:12   #59
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wow with this being such a board with the people that we have on it that know abotu guildwars, i cannot believe that this hasnt been posted already but here goes....

The origional concept was that in GW beta testing, your skills were on rings that you wore on your fingers. you have 8 fingers, so therefore you have 8 skills available. that was the whole purpose behind the 8 skill slots.

i feel old now because i knew this...
Are you serious?

Why can't you wear rings on your Thumb?
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Old Aug 31, 2006, 06:29 PM // 18:29   #60
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Are you serious?

Why can't you wear rings on your Thumb?
thumbtimes you can but i want one (or two) for my nose as well

and hidden toes of backup skills
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